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So I thought I would let you all know that back in march of 2011 I had commissioned HinaUchi for a piece of art that I had originally planned to give to :iconcrazy-voodoo-lady: for her birthday. Which is in july.

Time went, july came and pasted, I never saw my art that i paid for. Now in late August I had to ask for a refund from HIna because I lost my camera that was my birthday present from my mom and I needed to replace it before my mom found out. For those of you that don't know my family be thankful. My mom can scare the crazy neighbor who has the gun.

Hina Had spent my money in the time and thus couldn't afford to give me my refund. instead she made a journal for me asking others to commission me. While helpfull not that helpfull >.>

I then waited a YEAR, with questions here and there about my art. before I finally got it and she put little effort into it.fav.me/d4ve8mp she even states herself that she does not like it. I spent $45 on art that even the artist thought that she could have done better on.

I was annoyed but I let it go. she was a friend to me and I was partially trying to help her out.

Next about a month later after finally receiving my art Hina announces that her old paypal is over drawn and she's taking commissions to fix it. I of course was like. "my friend needs help? and i can get art, Sure why not." So I commissioned her again because these she was doing almost immediately. She expressed concern over the fact that she had just finished on piece of art for me and didn't want to make art for me again so soon. But she still gave me her paypal and accepted my commission.

I told her not to worry about it because i was still figuring out what character I wanted her to draw for me. well during this time my cat passed away and I figured I could have her draw me my cat, so I could have a tribute to my deiced pet on my page. So in May I tell hina what I would like for her to draw for me.

Well it's just a few months shy of being one year and I had to ask her if she ever planed to draw my art or not. If not I would like a refund. she said she would refund me. I sent her my info, and professionally what should have been immediate issued, she did not. I gave her 48 hours before contacting her on her profile page about the issue and not having received my refund.

I was not going to wait months to a year for her to refund me $10. I realize that is not that significant of an emount but it is the principle of the matter.

How could I trust that she would have responded any other way than that? she had read my last note that had my info in it and never contacted me again before I posted on her profile?

Her reply to my comment on her profile And my reponses

"HinaUchi said the following:

no need for that snarky bitchy comment on my profile, thanks very much, how about you be mature and note me.

im sorry for getting back to you late, but im trying to get the money to refund you, i never denied i wouldnt, nor did i state it'd take years, that was fucking rude

hold your horses, dude, im sorry."

"forgetSanity said the following:

If you didn't have the money to begin with you should have told me that you didn't have it. Not state that you will refund me and then you don't.

How else am I to look at this than as you trying to avoid paying me when as I stated in the comment I gave you 48 hours to repay me After you stated that you would. I gave you the info that you needed and you read it, and never responded. It seemed like you where hoping that if you waited long enough that I would forget about it.

I have been mature about this. If I sent you a note it wasn't a garentee that you would respond, but by making a comment on your page, it garenteed that you would contact me. if nothing else for you to get bitch about me calling you out on being unprofessional.

I've been nice about this rena, but I'm not going to sit back and wait weeks/ months for you to refund me when you can't even get a commission done on time. It is Rude unprofessional and it's the Second time I've had to ask you about a refund.

My history with your business is NOT a very professional one on your side hina, so don't call me mature. there was nothing bitchy about my comment it was an honest and actually polite selection of words. I was not rude about what I had stated at all."

"HinaUchi said the following:

''I gave you the info that you needed and you read it, and never responded. It seemed like you where hoping that if you waited long enough that I would forget about it.''

Actually, incorrect! I had starred your note to keep track of your email to send you a refund whenever I could get the money [if you want proof of my empty paypal ill gladly show you.] I even had to take another commission [5$ chibi] so I could give you a refund. Let's not put words into my mouth or make stupid false accusations about me.

''I've been nice about this rena, but I'm not going to sit back and wait weeks/ months for you to refund me when you can't even get a commission done on time.''

Because 2 days is weeks and months, yes."

"forgetSanity said the following:

''I gave you the info that you needed and you read it, and never responded. It seemed like you where hoping that if you waited long enough that I would forget about it.''

Never once did I SAY anything about you saying you weren't going to pay me. I said it SEEMED as in it looked like.

"weeks/months"
I was stating that I would not let it go that far. I was also basing that info off of my previous experience with you. My commission before I commissioned you for this piece took almost a year as well, were have you proven to me once that it wont take that long for anything from you?

also you still have not given me a date for my refund, and you seem to be avoiding that and focusing on other things, when in fact this is about getting my refund.

Once again You said you would issue me a refund, I gave you the info waited 48 hours when you should have given me the refund immediately, unless other wise stated, which you did not state.

Plus you've stated
" I even had to take another commission [5$ chibi] so I could give you a refund. "
and I still have not received my refund.

~Sanity"

Finally She issues me my refund.

I told her "thank you have a good day."

Rena as the professional that she is replies with "whatever." then continues to block me.



HinaUchi is NOT a professional artist, nor does she take her art seriously OR her commissions seriously. You are not guaranteed your art in a reasonable time, if at all. She also spends the money before she has completed the art and thus does not have the ability to issue refunds properly as she should be able too.

She will, with no problem, Give you art that she does not like herself and expects you to be happy with that.
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ChaosDemonXXXAngel Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah, she's still doing this sadly.
Has a whole blog dedicated to her about her scamming habits.
It's happening over on furaffinity as well. She's moved accounts quite a bit.
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forgetSanity Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
yea I've seen her blog...I've been thinking of putting up a link to the list of her accounts....though I'm kind of surprised people are still looking at this review.

I had hopped she would have gotten her act together. :(
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Dominosaurus Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2014
Bu....Bu...But....

unu I looked up to her.. Cry run onion sad 

I'm very sorry that happened to you :cc
No one should be treated with disrespect. 
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forgetSanity Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm sorry :hug: 

it is what it is. I still wish the best for her but I really don't think people should commission her until she learns better work ethics. admire her art but please learn from watching her mistakes and from her attitude that's all I ask.
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Dominosaurus Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2014
I agree.

I've done some research on her, I must say I was a bit surprised!
I hope she shapes up soon and gets her carrier in tack.

I'm very sorry that has happened to you. UnU Tamako Kitashirakawa (Snuggy) [V1]  *pap*
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Alikat980 Featured By Owner May 24, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
What I'd like to know is what happened to her. She just..disappeared. I'm hearing horror stories about people commissioning her, and I'd like to see her art and judge for myself if it's good. Do you know what happened to her?
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catpins Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
she hasn't disappeared, she hops accounts.
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Alikat980 Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ah. I guess that way nobody really knows its her.
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catpins Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
people do find out it's her, but if you call her out she'll remove your shouts and try to tell you that she's never scammed anyone.
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forgetSanity Featured By Owner May 25, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
she's ok FA, her collab account with her husband is brisbee and their other accounts can be located via their profile page on there.

personally her art isn't bad, she has some things she can work on, but who doesn't. It's more her work ethic that has people so much in a uproar about her. for me as I stated above my issues with her where that she gave me art and even put in the description that she didn't like it, as well as made me wait an entire year for my art, with out refunding me when I asked. that and I had commissioned her again just for her to make me wait almost a year again then say she would issue me a refund only for her friend to issue me the refund instead. 

I say watch her for her art, it's not bad. But really don't commission her. At least not unless it's during a stream or something when you know the art will be done right away.
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SecretSavvie Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2014  Professional General Artist
Thank God she's not here anymore...or doesn't seem to be.
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forgetSanity Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
...it wouldn't have been so bad if she actually learned from her mistakes T,T
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SecretSavvie Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2014  Professional General Artist
I know o.O
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R00DPRINCE Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2013  Student Digital Artist
jfc. Not to mention that she seemingly wised up (at least in dealing with complaints) for a short amount of time then pulled a COMPLETE 180 and turned into a raging immature bitch :I I'm really sorry about you being treated badly, friend <3
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forgetSanity Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
*shakes head* im sorry to here about this...it might also be the fact that dally is nolonger there to make her do her art and be like a buffer for people. I knw dallys the who reason I even got my refund.
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R00DPRINCE Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I hope she redeems herself, but I can't see it happening to be honest.
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forgetSanity Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
All we can do is hope 
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indieflowers Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2013  Student Digital Artist
wow so professional !!11!!1!
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forgetSanity Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
She wasnt then idk if much has changed but I hope she has and gotten better at getting her owed art done
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suicune Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
She hasn't changed a bit.
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forgetSanity Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Im terribly sorry to here that...I had hoped that she would have learned from this.
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indieflowers Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2013  Student Digital Artist
me too,,
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Saiitabeau Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Honestly, just reading this makes me sick.
If someone commissions you, you treat that motherfuck with respect for they will never commission you again.
Well, she probably wont mind because she has like thousands of people licking her ass for her.

If people can't tell that she's obviously going to scam people with not replying to them
or fucking not taking the time on her work, then wdf.

I bet if she fucking shit on a piece of paper her fans would still want it.
-__-
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forgetSanity Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
To my knowledge shes doing better but yea.
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Saiitabeau Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
v o v yeah i was kind of late to replying to all of this..
xD i'm not going to even bother myself in this drama tho.
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forgetSanity Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thats probably for the best. Its really not worth it to get roped into the drama ^.^
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Bee-stings Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
And yet people still love her and when I warned people to not get a fursuit from her someone replied to me saying "well I got my fursuit from her so she's clearly not a scammer" lol well good 4 u sweetie, aren't you lucky. 

she makes me so sick.
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forgetSanity Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Well to my knowledge she has been getting better at getting things done and such. I wouldnt nessisarily call her a scamer just really bad at business and very selective.
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Bee-stings Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I recently found out that she (or Ethan) shipped out the Blitz fursuit and it was recieved, how ever I'm not sure about the Shiba one.
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forgetSanity Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
well at least people are getting their things from her now
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RlPPER Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2013
I really do want to commish her for a chibi or something D': what do I do?
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forgetSanity Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Well I have not been in contact with hina in a while. I believe that she has gotten better at getting owed art out at a more reasonable pace. Unfortunatly I dont knw if she is still handing out that she claims she"doesn't like" or if shes even giving proper consideration into the art of others. 

I say if you truly want art from her do it during one of herlivestream commissions things she does. That way you can watch as she makes your art  otherwise if you like I can give you a list of people that do good art at decent prices that I have commissioned in the past.
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Sofiakkuma Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you so much for writing this up.
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forgetSanity Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Your welcome
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funCatty Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2013  Student Artist
shes just greedy and such now -3-;
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forgetSanity Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
it would seem so
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X88B8 Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm sick to death of Hina and will definitely not commission her x-x. My friend knows her a bit from their friends and Hina has confessed she "does not care" about commissions and that is why sometimes they seem rushed with the colours or she gets stuff wrong. You can see in her most recent commission for Crossybear that she got a lot wrong xD
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forgetSanity Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
She doesn't and she's actually stated that several times and her actions prove that she doesn't care about them.

*shakes head* that's not cool if someone is paying you to draw them something you should take it seriously...
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X88B8 Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
X-X it's so annoying when people are still commissioning her for her bad work when other artists need the commissions
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forgetSanity Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Well she's at least getting them done now so not much I can say beyond that. Now her pricing isnt worth her art.I wouldn't pay what she is charging for that. Then again im normally forking out 30-$50 for nicer art from more talented people
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Giggity1230 Featured By Owner May 26, 2013
wow! that's pretty rude of her :/ well im happy you got your refund back! ;w; i sure wont be commissioning her! >w<
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forgetSanity Featured By Owner May 27, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
thanks and if she ever gets better at handling her commissions I would commission her but I don't see that happening any time soon. (and well I PERSONALLY will never commission her again)
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T-Kaoru Featured By Owner May 16, 2013  Student Digital Artist
My first reaction... "Wow... someone spent $45 for this sort of art where people even refuse to buy art from me which is only $20... :I"

Clearly, she's no mature person to be even taking any sort of commission. I've been reading all stuff about this drama, and yes I feel bad for her costumers. And also feel bad for her. How could she be so rude and not even know the basics of net business, even so the basics of netiquette?
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forgetSanity Featured By Owner May 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I must say I love your art and I would love to commission you some time in the future, and I agree I normally wouldn't pay that much for art but she had stated she had wanted to go and visit her girl friend at the time and I considered her a friend back then. I wanted to help my friend out.

Unfortunately I believe her main flaw comes in not going to high school. She is so lazy and she has never really been forced to work (to my knowledge) she has seemed to have lacked the skills you would develop and learn in high school. though unfortunately I can only say that it is partially her parents faults for not teaching it to her/ forcing her to go to school. She's been allowed to get away with this and never had consequence's from it until now. I can only hope that she has learned from this, and that others would take this into consideration before commissioning her when she opens her commissions.
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T-Kaoru Featured By Owner May 17, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Thank you. It's a difficult world to work on when
I don't know where to look > u <

From what I have seen tho, she had been into too
much drama. Even to a point where it have gone to
tumblr. Sometimes it feels sad that she's going
through this. I feel like people who are not really
knowledgeable of the event had started bullying her.
True she has an attitude, true she is quite immature...
at the same time she is still so young. Not to
mention, like you said, she had not received proper
education. Unlike us, she is not packed with the
right knowledge and experience. Hopefully this event
does not further damage her.

True. Hopefully, her gesture of closing her commissions
is a sign that she had thought about her actions. If
not, then hopefully she realize how negative the public
reacts to what she have done.
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forgetSanity Featured By Owner May 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
your more than welcome, and that it is. (have you tried the job forms on here for trying to get commissions? the are the job services and job offers I say check them both out ^^)

she is. I think she strives on the drama and actually uses it for attention.

to my knowledge the only reason why her commissions aren't open is because she has so many to finish first off. (but I'm not sure if she has learned because she did take on about 10 more or so using a different account on FA.) so unfortunately I'm pretty skeptical on if she ever will figure out what she is doing wrong.
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T-Kaoru Featured By Owner May 18, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I did checked and I had commissions before... I only take a few now
since college 3rd year is about to start and I have to be careful
with the amount of work I take.

Perhaps the attention that the drama draws fuels her wrong perception
of the world even more. Sigh, such a troublesome mentality to have.
Nevertheless, people find this entertaining. So I guess there is a
little bit of [misguided] goodness in it.

Your customer review does really come in handy, for people who do not
know her yet. Hopefully people stumble upon this before they get baited in.
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forgetSanity Featured By Owner May 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Completely understandable.

That is true. it's easy to get swept away by the crowed.

that's why i did it. I have several more customer reviews I would like to do concerning other artists and what not. I like it and I tend to commission a fair amount of people weather threw points or real money so yea. and not only does it help the artist's but also the customers (and potential customers). As for this one. I can really only hope that people will see it and see that it's not just one person that this has happened too but many.
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SpytDragonFyre Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hina needed to learn not to spend money she got, before doing the actual commission. I mean seriously, that is like a basic commission principle.
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forgetSanity Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
it is. and to do it in a timely manner >.> it's just common sense.
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